It's really quite fascinating actually if you piece it all together, none of it all really makes sense. This is all out of sheer curiosity because of the vast amounts of different testimonies I've read from all parties involved. Please let me reiterate that I adore all members of the band and am in no position nor want to diss any particular member.
what do you think it all boiled down to? What's with the total hostility - back to being civil - back to hostile attitude? So having said all that (and please read it all before commenting I rarely make long posts on here, and I feel this is all very relevant given the fact that they'll all be here in the next two months). in a roundabout way, although sometimes even directly.
Then weeks later, based upon precedent, things seem far more mature and level-headed again, and Hooky is once more praising Bernard and co. towards Gillian), and the shit hits the fan once again. There have been good spirits everywhere, in fact, until a week or so later the dissing resumes (i.e. What one thing happened for all of this hypocrisy to take place? Hooky was happy to help out in getting the Lost Sirens' released, and that new compilation with Hellbent on it, AND the (albeit shitty) Rhino remasters. So, coming from the most rational and well-read perspective that I can, I'm really trying to determine what all this initially stemmed from. Yet, he goes out and plays Joy Division material. So, can we pinpoint what it might be? In one vein we hear solemn regret and well-wishes from Hooky towards Bernard and co., even to Bad Lieutenant, and then the next it's all about lawyers and not being invited to play as New Order. something which I recall Bernard hinting at in one of the many interviews at one point but never elaborating upon. So, really, all of this constant, CONSTANT hot/cold/hot/cold/hot/cold leads me to believe that it all really did boil down to one specific event or incident. Then we hear comments from Hooky saying that "it's a real shame," given their legacy and history, while in other moments he has made comments that make him sound entirely relieved to be away from any of the ex-bandmates and is looking to the future (back then, to Freebass, etc). Then, weeks later, stating that he would fuck them over in any way he possibly could. Then we hear comments from Hooky saying things like how he really liked Bad Lieutenant and wished Bernard and the other guys all the best. Then we had comments by Bernard saying that it was like a marriage gone sour things like Hooky "licking his fingers after eating potato chips while having his hands on the steering wheel of the car," and things like that gave him the shits. For me personally at least.įrom what I've gathered (and I'm taking all of this from memory from a vast array of very public interviews posted over the last few years), it started out with Hooky leaving the band. I rarely, if ever, comment upon the whole debacle I like New Order, I like Hooky, I like Bad Lieutenant, and their personal affairs don't really matter to me, but given the facts of future events just around the corner, I think it's worth having a little think about.
Right now it's 1:46 am, humid as all hell and I can't sleep, and with impending New Order gigs (and the potential to pose some questions to the band), along with seeing Hooky again in April, I thought I'd share my thoughts from everything I've seen and read since 2007. I'm 90% sure it is though.ītw, please check out this discussion I just started regarding Hooky Vs. I believe so, yes, but I haven't opened/played it. I knew the cd reissue was a print, but that photo *really* looks like a real foil bag :) is the sound on the vinyl from the remaster too?
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